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The Mental Framework and Specific Daily Actions to Succeed: Lessons From Andy Stumpf

Andrew Huberman
Andrew Huberman
Jun 15, 2026 • 21 min read

The choice that changes your life is often not dramatic. It is putting the cup in the dishwasher instead of leaving it in the sink. Preparing breakfast the night before a busy morning. Closing an app when you realize it is taking more from you than it gives.

These decisions look almost meaningless in isolation. Repeated over months and years, they become a direction.

That is a central lesson from my conversation with Andy Stumpf and his book, Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water. His experiences include the SEAL Teams, professional skydiving, wingsuit BASE jumping, business, parenting, and deeply difficult personal transitions. But the most useful tools he describes do not require an extraordinary profession or an appetite for danger.

They require learning where to put your attention, doing a little more of what you tend to avoid, and recognizing that being capable does not mean being impervious to pain.

Key Takeaways

  • Separate concerns from actionable influence to direct attention toward choices that can change your day.
  • Small acts of follow-through build discipline and reduce the friction created by repeated postponement.
  • High performance does not eliminate emotional pain or the need for honest communication and support.
  • Define success by the life it creates, not simply by accumulating more achievement or money.

Table of Contents

Separate Your Concerns From Your Influence

One exercise from Andy’s book immediately changed how I organize my attention. I began doing it weekly, and its value extended well beyond the few minutes it took to complete.

The exercise separates two things that we routinely confuse: what concerns us and what we can influence.

Our sphere of concern can be enormous. It includes the news, other people’s opinions, old relationships, social media, and events happening thousands of miles away. Our direct influence is much smaller.

That imbalance is not necessarily a problem. Treating every concern as if sustained attention will give us control over it is the problem.

The two-column exercise

  1. Take a sheet of paper and draw a vertical line down the middle.
  2. Label one side “Concern” and the other “Influence.”
  3. Write down the issues occupying your thoughts, especially those that follow you into bed or greet you when you wake.
  4. Separate what you worry about from the actions you can actually take.
  5. Redirect your effort toward the influence column.

Andy finds that the influence side ultimately comes back to one thing: himself. He can break that into his self-talk, time management, preparation, and behavior, but those are all expressions of how he responds.

I have used the right-hand column somewhat more expansively, listing specific things I can do with my time. Andy’s response was that this is perfectly consistent with the exercise. The point is not to complete a worksheet correctly. It is to recover useful agency.

For example, concern about a news story can generate an hour of increasingly agitated searching. The influence column asks a different question: Is there an action available to me, or am I simply feeding the concern?

This does not mean that circumstances are fair, that every emotional response is voluntary, or that you can control every outcome. It means identifying the part of the situation where your behavior can make a difference.

Andy revisits the exercise as needed, sometimes monthly and sometimes less often. Weekly has been helpful for me. The useful frequency is the one that helps you notice when your attention has drifted back toward things you cannot meaningfully change.

Make Social Media Work for You, Not the Other Way Around

Social media dramatically expands the concern column. We can remain continuously informed about former classmates, distant acquaintances, old jobs, strangers’ arguments, and every possible version of what someone thinks about us.

The availability of that information does not make it relevant to our lives.

Andy described a screen-time experiment with fellow former SEAL and endurance athlete Chad Wright. After comparing their phone usage, they challenged each other to get daily use below an hour, excluding phone calls.

Chad got close, at roughly 90 minutes. During the final week of the experiment, Andy reduced his phone use to about 30 minutes a day.

His most effective adjustment was surprisingly simple: he moved much of his online activity to his laptop.

He still posted content and handled necessary tasks. But the desktop experience was clunkier and less compelling. That friction made it easier to complete the task and leave rather than continue scrolling. He reported feeling substantially better mentally during that period.

Then, within a couple of months, he returned to his old habits.

That detail matters. Two people with extensive experience tolerating discomfort and maintaining discipline recognized the problem, improved their behavior, felt the benefits, and still reverted. Awareness alone was not enough to sustain the change.

Why knowing better does not always stop the scroll

Andy is often aware, while scrolling, that he would rather be doing something else. He does not necessarily feel good during it or afterward. Yet an available 15 minutes can still disappear.

I offered a hypothesis about why this pattern is so persistent: social media can occupy enough attention to hold us without completely removing our awareness of everything else. We can half-participate in a conversation, half-follow a meeting, and continue consuming content.

I think of this as a “low-resolution” form of engagement. That is a proposed explanation, not an established scientific category of addiction. But it captures something important: a habit does not have to produce an obvious catastrophe to consume a meaningful portion of a life.

Andy’s question provides a useful test: Is the platform serving your goals, or are your goals becoming secondary to staying on the platform?

His family also offers some reason for optimism. One son downloads a social media app once a week, uses it for about an hour, then deletes it. Another uses the platforms sporadically. His daughter has found disengaging more difficult. These are three individual experiences, not evidence about an entire generation, but they show that young people do not all develop the same relationship with these tools.

There may also be an opportunity to work with the desire for independence. Recognizing that an industry is competing to direct your behavior can make disengagement feel less like deprivation and more like refusing manipulation.

Healthy Habits Should Expand Your Life, Not Make It Fragile

Our discussion of younger generations also turned toward alcohol, sleep, and the growing interest in health optimization.

Andy has noticed less drinking among his children and their peers than he remembers from his own younger years. He also sees more interest in sleep and performance. Those are observations from his family and social circle, not a universal description of young adults.

Still, they raise an interesting question: How do we encourage healthy behavior without teaching people that they can only function under ideal conditions?

Alcohol illustrates the tension. Andy could identify experiences from his youth that involved drinking and that he would not erase. He could also identify decisions he regretted. Neither of us concluded that alcohol is necessary for connection, confidence, or a meaningful life.

Camera phones add another complication. When an awkward dance or uninhibited moment can become permanent public material, people may feel pressure to remain polished even in ordinary social settings.

We also discussed cannabis. A key concern was the association between cannabis use, particularly high-potency products, and psychosis risk in susceptible people. That discussion should not be reduced to a blanket claim that one substance is safe and another is not. Individual vulnerability, dose, frequency, and context matter.

The broader principle is to understand consequences rather than outsource decisions to a social norm.

The same principle applies to sleep. Good sleep is enormously valuable. But there is also value in discovering that an imperfect night does not automatically make you incapable of completing an important task.

That is not an argument for deliberately depriving yourself of sleep. It is an argument against building an identity that depends on perfect readiness. Life will sometimes ask you to study, exercise, parent, or have a necessary conversation when you feel far from your best.

Use Discomfort as Practice, Not as a Contest

Deliberate cold exposure came up as one way to experience a strong physiological stress response in a controlled setting. For me, part of its value is the opportunity to notice what happens when arousal rises: Do I distract myself? Fight the sensation? Settle into it?

The goal is not simply to endure the lowest temperature possible. People differ in cold tolerance, and colder does not automatically mean more useful.

Safety matters. Hyperventilation before entering water can be dangerous and has contributed to deaths. Extreme exposure is not something to improvise. We also discussed separating cold immersion from resistance training when muscle growth is a priority, rather than routinely plunging immediately afterward.

Andy’s preferred “cold plunge,” he joked, would be about 80 degrees Fahrenheit, with a similarly comfortable sauna nearby. Having spent enough time cold during military training, he is not especially interested in recreating the experience for entertainment.

Underneath the humor is a useful distinction: the practice should serve you; you do not need to serve the practice.

What Wingsuit Flying Reveals About Attention and Risk

Wingsuit flying can look like a person simply leaping into space and somehow remaining airborne. The mechanics, progression, and consequences are much more involved.

A wingsuit uses fabric between the arms and torso and between the legs to create a wing. Modern suits inflate through air inlets, giving the fabric a pressurized structure. Suit size and design affect glide, maneuverability, and the demands placed on the pilot.

The difference between leaving an aircraft and leaving a fixed object is especially important.

  • From an aircraft: The jumper enters moving air, allowing the suit to pressurize quickly.
  • From a fixed object: The jumper begins without that airspeed, creating an initial period in which body position and developing airflow are critical.

BASE refers to buildings, antennas, spans, and earth. In wingsuit BASE jumping, the first few seconds can be unforgiving because terrain may be close and the suit has not yet developed full performance.

Skydiving generally uses a main parachute and a reserve. Automatic activation devices can deploy the reserve under specified conditions if a jumper does not act. BASE jumping generally uses one parachute because the available altitude may not permit a useful reserve deployment.

Those differences are not minor technicalities. They change the margin for error.

Progression cannot be replaced by enthusiasm

Andy had roughly 3,000 skydives before his first wingsuit flight. He described a gradual progression through skydiving, smaller suits, larger suits, BASE jumping, and eventually combining those skill sets.

For someone curious about skydiving, a tandem jump or supervised indoor wind-tunnel experience offers an introduction without pretending that interest equals competence. Training requirements and current guidance should come from qualified instructors and organizations such as the United States Parachute Association.

Legal access also varies. Andy learned BASE jumping at the Perrine Bridge in Twin Falls, Idaho. Other locations may require permission or prohibit the activity, sometimes with serious criminal consequences. An appealing location is not necessarily a lawful one.

A good outcome does not prove good judgment

One of the most transferable lessons from this part of the discussion is to distinguish successful execution from surviving a mistake.

In a complex environment, the result can conceal what you failed to understand. A wingsuit flight may go well despite unrecognized changes in wind, shade, or thermal activity. Repeating that flight with confidence does not mean those variables have stopped mattering.

Andy worries particularly about the stage at which confidence has developed faster than understanding. Years of participation do not automatically protect someone from it.

He spoke about his friend Alex, who died, and about wishing he had confronted him more forcefully after earlier close calls. The lesson was not that danger can be eliminated by the right attitude. It was that familiarity and survival can create false reassurance.

This extends well beyond extreme sports. A business decision can work despite poor preparation. A difficult conversation can end peacefully despite careless language. A risky habit can remain consequence-free for years.

Evaluate the quality of the decision, not just whether you escaped the downside.

The Point Was Not Adrenaline. It Was Quiet.

Andy’s explanation for why he pursued wingsuit BASE jumping surprised me. He was not primarily seeking an adrenaline rush.

He was seeking a particular kind of mental quiet.

During military operations, he experienced a narrowing of attention as he approached an objective. Ordinary worries dropped away. Rather than thinking about an argument, a broken appliance, or bills at home, he became focused on the next few seconds.

After leaving the military, he realized how much that state had been doing for him. Everyday mental noise felt louder without it.

BASE jumping brought some of that focus back. The fear was real. His heart could be pounding as he prepared to leave an edge. But the feeling he valued afterward was the opposite of being constantly keyed up: he felt settled, anchored, and able to think clearly.

He described benefits that sometimes lasted for months, with the strongest clarity during the first few months after a trip. He felt more patient as a father and husband and more effective in business.

Those are his personal observations. We do not have an established mechanism explaining that duration or a guarantee that someone else would experience the same thing.

The possible relationship between flow and time perception

One idea we explored was whether complete absorption recalibrates the perception of time. Perhaps attending fully to the immediate task makes it easier afterward to inhabit an ordinary conversation or work period without competing mental noise.

We also considered whether the experience changes which stressors deserve attention. Andy did not describe becoming indifferent. He described having more room to understand a conversation from another person’s perspective.

These are hypotheses. The distinction matters because an interesting explanation should not be mistaken for a demonstrated biological mechanism.

Most importantly, wingsuit BASE jumping is not a mental health prescription. Andy eventually stopped because the risk no longer justified the reward, particularly as access to regular practice decreased after his move to Montana. Currency and competence mattered too much to treat occasional participation casually.

He has found some of the same absorption in jiu-jitsu. Other people may find it in art, music, meditation, yoga, gardening, or another demanding practice.

The useful question is not how to reproduce someone else’s danger. It is: What activity allows you to be fully present without leaving you worse off?

Micro-Discipline: Why the Toilet Paper Matters

The most ordinary story in our conversation may also be the most practical.

In Andy’s children’s bathroom, an empty toilet paper roll would remain on the holder while a new roll appeared beside it. More empty rolls accumulated. Eventually, the arrangement became an unstable little construction project, followed by a request for help when the usable roll fell out of reach.

The funny part is the elaborate effort involved in avoiding a very small task.

The same pattern appears with laundry. Washing clothes but leaving them in a pile feels faster until you are searching for a particular shirt, untangling socks, or trying to work out what is clean.

Deferring a task often does not eliminate effort. It transfers the effort to a less convenient time and adds friction.

Andy’s principle is straightforward: choose the slightly harder useful action more often than the slightly easier escape.

  • Replace the empty roll rather than balancing another one nearby.
  • Put away the laundry rather than creating tomorrow’s search problem.
  • Load the cup into the dishwasher rather than leaving it for someone later.
  • Prepare ingredients tonight when you know tomorrow morning will be busy.

This is not a demand for perfection. Andy was clear that his own house and habits are not flawless. Nor is it a claim that every successful person has an immaculate desk.

The argument is about repeated behavior. Small acts of completion reduce avoidable chaos and give you practice doing what you decided mattered.

Why details receive so much attention in training

Andy connected this to the seemingly excessive inspection of small pieces of equipment during SEAL training. An instructor might scrutinize a CO2 cartridge for sand or rust even when a tiny imperfection would not necessarily prevent the flotation device from working.

The deeper test was whether someone could follow a procedure while tired, rushed, and uninterested in doing it.

In a high-consequence environment, the ability to carry out an unglamorous step can matter more than how motivated you feel.

Everyday household tasks are not combat procedures. But they provide frequent opportunities to practice completing a small commitment when postponing it would be easier.

The Neuroscience of Doing What You Would Rather Avoid

Our discussion of discipline connects to research on the anterior mid-cingulate cortex, a brain region involved in effort and perseverance.

In work by Stanford neurosurgeon Josef Parvizi and colleagues, electrical stimulation in this region produced reports of readiness to confront a challenge and persist through it. Other research has linked this region to demanding behavior and preserved capacities in some older adults.

The important conceptual distinction is between doing something objectively demanding and doing something you experience as aversive.

If you love training, a hard workout may be difficult without presenting the same psychological barrier as a small task you strongly want to avoid. The friction is personal.

That does not mean every unwanted chore has been shown to enlarge a particular brain structure. It also does not establish that making your bed causes healthy aging. The neuroscience gives us a useful way to think about effort, not a license to turn every act of tidiness into a medical claim.

Andy’s practical point remains valuable: on a day when you do not want to exercise, completing an appropriate, possibly smaller session can matter because you acted despite reluctance.

The word “appropriate” matters. Persistence is not the same as ignoring injury, severe illness, or exhaustion. Choosing a useful challenge and recognizing when to recover are both forms of judgment.

Jiu-jitsu offers Andy another kind of challenge: a skill he does not believe can ever be fully mastered. He enjoys speaking with experienced black belts who keep discovering how much remains to learn. That ongoing encounter with the limits of your understanding can keep curiosity alive.

Physical Toughness Does Not Make You Immune to Emotional Pain

When I asked Andy about the hardest experience of his life, he did not choose military selection, combat, or wingsuit flying.

He chose his divorce.

The process lasted nearly two years and challenged his sense of himself in ways his military work had not. He used the tools we had been discussing: separating concern from influence, breaking time into manageable pieces, and paying attention to how he spoke to himself.

He also chose not to disclose details that would turn a difficult family experience into a one-sided public account. He has a platform; his former wife does not. That boundary allowed him to explain his suffering without claiming ownership of everyone else’s story.

For 18 months, he had no meaningful contact with his oldest son despite repeated attempts to reconnect. He described the pain of loving someone enormously while not knowing whether the relationship would return.

It eventually did. He now describes a close relationship in which his son calls to ask questions and seek advice. Andy also recognizes that not every estrangement resolves that way.

One lesson is especially important for parents: when your child asks for your time, recognize what is being offered. The request may be inconvenient, but their willingness to seek your perspective is not a small thing.

Seeing your parents as people

This brought us into my own experience of my parents’ divorce. Over time, I have tried to understand not just how those years felt to me, but what each of them was trying to manage.

That does not erase the child’s experience. It broadens the picture.

There is a difference between realizing that your parents do not know everything and recognizing that they were people making consequential decisions with incomplete information. The first realization can produce rejection. The second can make room for empathy.

Andy’s reflections about his mother and her passing also prompted me to call my own mother. Time with someone can feel indefinitely available until it is not.

None of this requires pretending a painful experience was good. It requires allowing relationships to become more complex than the version we understood at the hardest moment.

Talking About Pain Can Be the More Useful Choice

Andy’s account of an intestinal obstruction provides a very concrete example of the limits of toughness.

He first noticed abdominal discomfort during a podcast recording. He assumed it was gas. Despite difficulty standing upright, he participated in about 90 minutes of jiu-jitsu. Later, while preparing for the drive home from Utah to Montana, the pain worsened.

His wife found him inverted in the passenger seat, trying to shift what he still believed was a gas bubble.

She took him to a hospital.

The problem turned out to be an intestinal obstruction involving scar tissue, and he required surgery. He described the pain during treatment as the worst he had experienced, including being shot.

His pain management was complicated by what he reports as an unusual response to opioid medications. He did not want his wife to contact his sister, a nurse who was on vacation. His wife contacted her anyway to help communicate with the care team.

The details are personal, not a guide to selecting medications. The general lesson is clear: minimizing the pain did not make him more capable. It delayed support.

There is a difference between tolerating discomfort and withholding information that other people need to help you.

Andy’s experience has been that when he honestly communicates pain, grief, or struggle, people are often willing to assist. Silence can preserve the appearance of self-sufficiency while making the actual situation harder.

Suicide, Isolation, and the Limits of the High-Performer Image

Our discussion of suicide was difficult, and neither of us pretended to have a complete explanation. It is important not to confuse frank conversation with a simple solution.

If you are thinking about suicide or are concerned about someone who may be in danger, seek immediate support. In the United States, call or text 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. If there is immediate physical danger, contact emergency services. The National Institute of Mental Health’s suicide prevention guidance provides additional information about warning signs and getting help.

Andy spoke about his friend Dave, an exceptionally capable and highly regarded member of the special operations community. Other people saw a standard to aspire to. Dave’s private writing revealed a painfully different view of himself.

That gap between public competence and private self-judgment is important. Professional success does not establish psychological safety.

In Dave’s case, Andy described alcohol addiction, isolation, intense self-expectations, and attempts to find treatment. These details help explain the complexity of the situation. They do not establish one definitive cause.

Trauma may begin long before a demanding career

Andy has increasingly had conversations with former teammates about their lives before the military. Some brought substantial childhood adversity into the profession.

That is not a description of everyone in the military, and his observations are not a representative study. But it cautions against assuming that all distress began with deployment.

A transition out of service can add further strain:

  • Loss of a familiar role and daily structure.
  • Distance from close peers.
  • Uncertainty about identity and purpose.
  • Alcohol or other unhealthy coping habits.
  • Earlier experiences that have not been adequately addressed.

Those factors can interact. They also extend beyond military life to retirement, career loss, divorce, and other major transitions.

Connection matters, but survivors do not control every outcome

Andy described how often people at funerals wonder what else they could have done. Reading a loved one’s journals may provide understanding, but it can also intensify guilt and imagined alternatives.

We need to be careful here. The fact that someone died does not prove that the people around them failed. Caring, reaching out, and facilitating treatment are important, but no friend or family member has complete control over another person’s illness or decisions.

We also discussed ordinary, repeated contact. I described a group in which people check in each morning. A small routine can establish connection and make someone’s absence more noticeable.

That is not a substitute for professional care. It is one way to make care less dependent on a person finding the words for a crisis.

No intervention is a universal answer

We discussed reports of benefit from medically supervised psychedelic treatment, including ibogaine, alongside the reality that some people do not improve as hoped. Dave had pursued treatment repeatedly.

These experiences should not be converted into a recommendation for self-treatment. Nor should a person’s lack of response be interpreted as a failure of effort or character.

We also discussed faith, meaning, and spiritual ways of understanding suffering. I shared personal beliefs about forces that can shape our inner lives. Those beliefs are not established scientific explanations of suicide, and they should not replace clinical assessment or treatment.

One potentially useful metaphor was that of temporarily distorted optics: during a severe crisis, a person’s view of themselves and their future may be profoundly unreliable. Trusted people and clinicians can help provide perspective when self-judgment has become dangerously harsh.

The practical implication is not to argue someone out of their pain. It is to take the pain seriously without accepting hopelessness as an accurate forecast.

A Daily Framework Without a Rigid Script

After discussing these larger challenges, I asked Andy what an ordinary day built around his principles might look like.

He resisted giving everyone the same morning routine, for good reason. Making the bed is not especially considerate if your partner is still sleeping in it.

The transferable principle is to begin with a small, useful act of follow-through.

  1. Complete one early act of discipline. Make the bed when appropriate, or choose another small commitment you can fulfill.
  2. Reduce tomorrow’s friction today. Prepare food or organize what you will need before a predictable rush.
  3. Place movement where it is likely to happen. Andy finds that delaying exercise increases the likelihood he will postpone it entirely.
  4. Match effort to recovery. He generally chooses either jiu-jitsu or another workout rather than routinely making both demanding on the same day.
  5. Finish small tasks when practical. Look for the moment when “later” is simply a way to avoid a few seconds of effort.
  6. Return to the concern-and-influence exercise. Use it when mental noise is consuming attention that could go toward action.

Andy mentioned drinking a 16-ounce glass of water before coffee as one of his own simple morning commitments. The point was not that this exact sequence is essential for everyone. It was that an ordinary action can reinforce deliberate choice.

Nor is sweating itself a complete definition of exercise. The underlying aim is an appropriate, repeatable physical practice rather than an impressive routine that you rarely complete.

A cup in the dishwasher will not transform a life. A day containing repeated acts of useful follow-through can begin to change its trajectory.

Build a Process You Can Trust When the Future Is Unclear

Andy’s current life includes a coffee shop in Kalispell, the Cleared Hot podcast, writing, travel with his wife, and jiu-jitsu. He could not have predicted that combination when he left the military.

His route included strength and conditioning work, flying aircraft, professional skydiving and BASE jumping, and public speaking. Some transitions were financially stressful. At one point, after leaving a job without another lined up, he sold possessions to help cover expenses.

The confidence he has now did not appear immediately. It developed over more than a decade.

What excites him is not having his next role completely mapped out. It is knowing he has a process for responding when an opportunity or problem arrives.

That is different from assuming everything will work out. It is confidence grounded in accumulated evidence that he can learn, adapt, and solve problems.

He also uses a simple business filter:

  • Is this something I naturally do or use in my life?
  • Would I enjoy it regardless of the payment?

If either answer is no, declining becomes easier. Requests involving friends and family can be more complicated, but the broader lesson remains: adding another opportunity is not always progress.

As Andy has gotten older, subtraction has become more valuable.

Define the Price of Success Before “More” Becomes the Goal

Ambition has a cost. Sometimes the cost is obvious: time, effort, uncertainty. Sometimes it appears later as missed relationships, holidays, experiences, or years of postponing everything outside work.

Andy does not want people to abandon meaningful goals. He does want them to examine whether achieving a particular outcome would leave them with a life they actually want.

There is a profound difference between reaching a target and being fulfilled by the life required to reach it.

Information can help clarify the tradeoffs. Andy described how his son used online resources to start window-cleaning and holiday-light businesses in high school, learning about licenses, insurance, equipment, and business structure. Used deliberately, the same internet that distracts us can shorten the distance between a question and a practical answer.

But no amount of information removes every tradeoff. Some boundaries only become clear through experience.

Money can reduce stress without solving everything

Money can pay bills, create options, and allow you to outsource tasks so that more time goes toward what matters. The difference between choosing work and feeling forced to accept it can be enormous.

It cannot guarantee health, genuine connection, or freedom from helplessness. I have known wealthy people funding research into diseases affecting their children. Their resources mattered, but those resources did not erase the pain or provide an immediate solution.

At high levels of wealth, trust can become more difficult if someone has repeatedly been approached for access or money.

That is why “more” is an unstable definition of success. It has no finishing point.

A more useful question is: What is enough for the life I want, including a reasonable margin of security?

The answer will vary. The point is to have an answer that is connected to experience, relationships, and actual needs rather than endless comparison.

The Small Choice Is Where the Framework Becomes Real

The tools Andy describes connect to one another.

Separating concern from influence shows you where action is available. Reducing compulsive scrolling gives some attention back. Completing small tasks reduces avoidable friction. Finding an absorbing practice can quiet mental noise. Speaking honestly about pain makes support more accessible. Defining enough helps keep ambition from consuming the life it was supposed to improve.

None of those ideas requires a flawless person. In fact, Andy’s willingness to discuss where he struggled is part of what makes the framework useful.

The next decision may be very small. It may be closing an app, preparing a meal, asking for help, or finishing something you would rather leave for later.

Choose the slightly harder useful action more often, and give those choices time to accumulate.

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